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A definition of job security

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Post by wonderer » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:29 pm

Seems though that the perks are what some are more concerned about in staying with a job though. If the perks were taken away from those areas that have them, how many of those employees would stick around or would they move down the road to the next company offering a campus with just a few more free toys in the lunch/coffee room/lounge?

I have to agree with grudey, but there are many out there now that truly expect the perks and are quite unhappy when they don't get them or if the perks might disappear.

Post by grudey » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:40 pm

That is exactly what I asked Wonderer. Don't we get our perks every second Thursday. They pay me to provide them a service and as long as I can supply that service cost effectively my job is safe. Good God, who cares about foos ball tables and seating. I prefer a heartfelt good job from management now and then when I do a good job, which I do get all the time, but it is not expected. Oh by the way, I can list many many times that TELUS has paid for dinners and lunches when technically they didn't have any obligation. I go to work and I am paid. That is what job security is all about.

Post by NC » Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:30 pm

Wonderer.. how about if we all acknowledge that TElus does not give ALL of its employees ALL the same perks, including free foos ball, free xbox and free... whetever. What is your point?

Just state it.

Post by wonderer » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:25 pm

100+ easily at North Garage - check your figures as all of Access Engineering is now up there plus a number of Project managers.

Post by green1 » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:46 pm

there are a number of Calgary complexes (call them campuses if you wish) that have 50 to 80 to 100+ people
"a number of Calgary complexes" is apparently 2? the staffing level of the north garage isn't up at 100 either... (maybe 20? 30 tops I'd think) I don't spend much time at hopewell, so I can't comment on facilities there, but the north garage definitely has seating for more than the "6" you posted about earlier, it has internet access too. and has been the site of numerous free (paid for by the company) barbeques, the last one I was at was a fully catered affair so I can assure you that no bargaining unit members had to pay for barbeques and propane themselves (it also had nothing to do with a retirment or anniversary).

I'm not saying the post you were commenting about was 100% accurate, but you are grasping at straws and being at least equally innacurate in the other direction.

Post by wonderer » Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:11 pm

North Grage and Hopewell.

Post by green1 » Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:06 pm

Am digging up an old post that I find quite intriguing because there are a number of Calgary complexes (call them campuses if you wish) that have 50 to 80 to 100+ people reporting to them that do not have pool, x-box, foos ball, air hockey, shuffle board, and/or table hockey. Internet on free terminals is not offered nor fun days every 1-2 months where the company spends thousands of dollars on food/entertainment for these employees.

What is in place at these complexes is 25+ year old furniture in the lunch rooms (seating for only 6) and the only free lunch days are for anniversaries or retirements of employees (bargaining unit and management alike). Fun days - they come around at Stampede week only and consist of a breakfast with no other activities. Aside from that, there might be one barbeque during the summer months and the bargaining unit employees even provided the barbeques and the propane with no re-imbursement (an expense borne to supply cooking facilities for bargaining unit and management employees alike).

Every Telus campus that is in operation today has these perks - nope, this is not a reality. Wasn't 5 years ago, wasn't 2 years ago, isn't now and doesn't look probable in the near future.


ok, be fair, your post is just as inaccurate as the one you are complaining about! first of all, a CO isn't a "campus" but even given that, there are not 100 people reporting to any one of these, there are maybe 30, of which maybe 5 actually work out of the CO, the rest work out of their vans (like myself) and only visit a CO a couple times a week. internet access is offered in all of these COs (even the remotes that have ZERO employees have a DSL connection available) and I know of at least one CO with leather couches and TV service (Crowchild) sure, they don't have x-box, foos ball, air hockey, shuffle board, and/or table hockey. Any CO that has people working out of it has seating for more than "6" as they can host a crew meeting of everyone that works there, yes the furniture is old, but functional. but to say they have nothing is a blatant lie as well. This is "now" as in today. Sunday Oct 22, 2006. (ok, I last verified the Crowchild CO yesterday, but I doubt it has changed since then... and some COs I haven't been to in a couple months or more, but the information is still current, and especially so for all the COs in the north half of Calgary!)

As for barbeques and such, I know in the north part of Calgary there have been at least 2 this year, paid for by the company 100%, and on work time. (none of these have had any relation to retiring employees or work anniversaries) and that doesn't include the pizza lunches that come with some of our monthly meetings (again, paid for 100% by the company).

sure the original post exaggerated, but your post was no more accurate. if you want to refute something use facts, not exaggerations or you can't be expected to be taken any more seriously than the post you are objecting to.

Post by wonderer » Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:51 am

Yes, I am, grudey. I am justing pointing out the inaccuracies of JohnDoe's claims.

Post by grudey » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:45 am

Aren't you getting paid to work?

Post by grudey » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:44 am

so what's your point????

Post by wonderer » Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:35 pm

... As I stated in my last post, I believe that every Telus campus, again not some, every Telus campus that is in operation today has these perks. I can't say for sure as I've only been in a couple of them, but from memos sent out in the last couple years, I believe they were instituted at all campuses.
Am digging up an old post that I find quite intriguing because there are a number of Calgary complexes (call them campuses if you wish) that have 50 to 80 to 100+ people reporting to them that do not have pool, x-box, foos ball, air hockey, shuffle board, and/or table hockey. Internet on free terminals is not offered nor fun days every 1-2 months where the company spends thousands of dollars on food/entertainment for these employees.

What is in place at these complexes is 25+ year old furniture in the lunch rooms (seating for only 6) and the only free lunch days are for anniversaries or retirements of employees (bargaining unit and management alike). Fun days - they come around at Stampede week only and consist of a breakfast with no other activities. Aside from that, there might be one barbeque during the summer months and the bargaining unit employees even provided the barbeques and the propane with no re-imbursement (an expense borne to supply cooking facilities for bargaining unit and management employees alike).

Every Telus campus that is in operation today has these perks - nope, this is not a reality. Wasn't 5 years ago, wasn't 2 years ago, isn't now and doesn't look probable in the near future.

PPl , WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WHEN ALL THIS IS OVER ?

Post by wirely » Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:49 pm

Go back to watching soap opera's on your time off ?

Listen to yourselves bickering....Outsourcing is here , you will be outsourced to yourselves and if this site were not up and running half of you would go crazy......

I voted NO as an honour thing.........

Love the company ? Oh it really loves you !! It really , really does.

Member Sally Fields at the Emmys ?

Post by goatdancer » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:46 pm

JD
Then this would just be the offices that have lots of clerical staff, like call center-type? This would not apply to any plant centers?

Post by JohnDoe » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:27 am

JD
Sorry, you haven't. The impression I get from you is that all offices in TELUS have these perks. I don't intend to imply that there would be any such thing in small, normally unmanned centers, just the larger ones like Calgary, Edmonton, Red Deer (if it's still running), Vancouver, Prince George, Kelowna, and others like that. Thanks.
You would be correct, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, Prince George, and Victoria all have these. Kelowna and Red Deer are no longer running.

Post by goatdancer » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:13 am

JD
Sorry, you haven't. The impression I get from you is that all offices in TELUS have these perks. I don't intend to imply that there would be any such thing in small, normally unmanned centers, just the larger ones like Calgary, Edmonton, Red Deer (if it's still running), Vancouver, Prince George, Kelowna, and others like that. Thanks.

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