Labour Talk

Battle of fines - continues

alec — Thu May 08, 2008 1:17 pm

Author: alec

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:17 pm

Unions will never ever give up trying to win this. They need control over their members and there is only so much that you can do where you threaten someone with physical violence.

The problem with physical violence these days is that it is too easy to get caught since the authourities are no longer turning a blind eye to this.

The Unions have to be able to hold management hostage. without strike action they are kneecapped.

We're Going to Montreal

Mimi Williams — Wed May 07, 2008 7:06 pm

Author: Mimi Williams

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:06 pm

I am not certain where I defended anyone, wimpole. I guess the snarkiness of that last post didn't translate well.

Laid off workers getting 80% pay? How does that work?

alec — Wed May 07, 2008 1:35 pm

Author: alec

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:35 pm

What a mess.

Overpaid Bank Execs - again

alec — Wed May 07, 2008 10:01 am

Author: alec

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:01 am

Quote:

Do you think they were planning to take this big honking strike since the TD Bank strike did not work out.

Probably. The big unions have been itching for the chance to take on big corporations. they need to stay in the news or else the general populations thinks they are useless appendages.

Gov't agencies... Labour Boards specifically

alec — Mon May 05, 2008 5:34 pm

Author: alec

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 5:34 pm

I am sure when they wrote it they wanted to make sure that the process was not too easy to implement. After all if they made it easy then every time a union robbed, cheated and lied, the membership might try to decertify.

And that, my friends, is not good for business.

over $1000 a year... "Wasn't a waste when I was paying

alec — Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:29 pm

Author: alec

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:29 pm

It is a long uphill battle for this executive.

They need to Communicate, communicate, communicate!! Focus on membership and inclusion to change the view (or reality) that they don't care about the members.

Change has to start now!

Some days I feel so frustrated with the waste. so many missed opportunities. Why can't they learn.

sigh.........

can you reset my user?

JohnDoe — Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:03 pm

Author: JohnDoe

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:03 pm

i am alec wrote:

i changed my email address to something more current and it looks like my user has reset as a result.

Cheers

Alec

I got your email, it's been reactivated. Sorry for the wait.

CIBC bank on Strike in Sudbury

Other side of the coin — Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:30 pm

Author: Other side of the coin

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:30 pm

NC..When I was using the word "impartial" it was not referring to the union. The "impartial" view would come if there was a grievance between the company and the employee which couldn't be settled. It would then go through the grievance procedure which could end up with an arbitrator hearing the case( which would be your "impartial" person).

The union does collect dues, but they also put out Thousand's of dollars in fighting cases for the workers. This would not be possible for the average worker to due without the union. Therefore the company would have "free reign" on any situation that might arise in the work place, right or wrong. With a contract they are accountable for some things.

Your statement about "Jim Kmit losing the war". This strike is not about Jim Kmit. It is about the 66 employee's of CIBC and their future and those to follow.

You don't give the employee's enough credit, they are not puppets on a string for the bank or the union. They are average people who have found the strenght inside them to stand up for what they believe in and to look beyond. I have to laugh when people comment about the lost wages and that we will never make them up. Do they really think we are that stupid? We are well aware that the money will never be regained back. This is not just about money as so many people would like to think. This is about having a voice in the workplace, about having a decent pension and benefits, fairness in the work place etc.

When we settle will it be the same something that all CIBC'S get across the country? Yes because we set the standard and CIBC will give it to the other CIBC'S just to keep the UNION OUT, but that's alright because we will have made a difference. Our first contract we settled was for more then they gave the other CIBC employee's, so they raised them again to what we had bargained for. A raise they would not have gotten had we not be able to bargain.

Will the CEO continue to make outrageous money, as you stated? More then likely but in the end they will know as I am sure they already due, that we will not be held "hostage" either. This has not been an easy fight against a multi billion dollar corporation but the easy path in life isn't always the right one.

We all get the same strike pay. One doesn't make more then the other. As long as you put in your time on the line you are paid. The first three weeks we received ZERO pay. Then we started off at $150.00 and now we make $300.00 weekly.

JJ- you are right not everyone rally's behind the strikers but we draw strenght from those that believe in us and respect the views of those that don't, even though we may not agree with them.

green 1- A contract is not usually 5 years. An average contract is usually 2 to 3 years and this is something that is bargained between the two sides to agree upon.

Once again I say we are well aware that the money lost will not be recouped. You have to look at the bigger picture.

Bell Employees as Partners

alec — Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:15 pm

Author: alec

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:15 pm

I wish i COULD stop focusing....

I listen to the ILECs whine day and night.

They are going to hold their braeth until they turn blue....

(and then we will be sorry)......

Albertans for Change

JJ — Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:14 pm

Author: JJ

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:14 pm

Ontario has the same thing but it is still going. union back website pretending to be something it's not.

http://www.workingfamilies.ca/

then the group that watches and tells the other side of the story to the above site

http://www.workingfamilieswatch.ca/index.cfm

If you want to see the union using member dues to spin perception go and see the Albertans for Change ads, then the Working Families ads... they are identical.

Union refuses to touch Zim arms

alec — Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:29 pm

Author: alec

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:29 pm

Of course the CEOs make millions so therefore everyone should me making a lot more.... (tongue firmly in cheek re:Sudbury)

What Would Adam Smith Do?

alec — Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:26 pm

Author: alec

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:26 pm

I bow to your superior knowledge of such things.

Now that the Love In is Over

Mimi Williams — Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:33 am

Author: Mimi Williams

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:33 am

Hear! Hear! Sometimes inane discussion is just what the world needs. As long as things aren't mean-spirited and reduced to school-yard name-calling, it's all good. Now, what about those Habs? Ole Ole Ole Ole!

CAW sell-out of workers spreads

NC — Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:11 am

Author: NC

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:11 am

Sounds like a recent conversation i had with Vince Ready. Respectful but wary.

TWU-TV is on the air !

alec — Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:37 pm

Author: alec

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:37 pm

not really. I though his chair was a bit pretentious-looking......

Wildcat strike and LabourTalk is silent?

NC — Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:06 pm

Author: NC

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:06 pm

Mr. "Super Elite" I presume?

Corporate Responsibility at it's Best

NC — Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:47 pm

Author: NC

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:47 pm

GROANER.....