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Sit-in......like it's 1981

Help dispel some rumours about unions or companies in the this sector.
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Sit-in......like it's 1981

Postby JoePublic » Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:27 pm

I heard that in Alberta the twu was going to try a sit-in --- haven't heard anything about whether it happened or not --- I'm guessing they are still trying to set it up.


Any one else hear about this?????



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Re: Sit-in......like it's 1981

Postby Domino » Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:24 pm

I heard that in Alberta the twu was going to try a sit-in --- haven't heard anything about whether it happened or not --- I'm guessing they are still trying to set it up.


Any one else hear about this?????
Nope. I didn't hear anything about it.



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Re: Sit-in......like it's 1981

Postby cragorn » Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:29 am

I heard that in Alberta the twu was going to try a sit-in --- haven't heard anything about whether it happened or not --- I'm guessing they are still trying to set it up.


Any one else hear about this?????
This wouldn't happen in 2005...and if it did, it would last a whole 3 hours. Back in 1981, things were different. Getting court injunctions and high priced lawyers and security and actually standing up to the union probably wouldn't or didn't happen. Today, publicly traded companies like TELUS are very aggressive and resourceful and wouldn’t take this standing down.

That’s the whole problem with labor movements. Companies have moved forward with different tactics while the union still lives in the dark ages performing the exact same thing that was performed 70 years ago.

All this would do is have more TWU members fired.



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Re: Sit-in......like it's 1981

Postby JohnDoe » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:25 am

I heard that in Alberta the twu was going to try a sit-in --- haven't heard anything about whether it happened or not --- I'm guessing they are still trying to set it up.


Any one else hear about this?????
Someone enlighten me, what exactly is a "sit-in"?


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Re: Sit-in......like it's 1981

Postby cragorn » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:41 am

A sit-in is the same thing as a lock-out however it's in reverse. So instead of the union being outside, they would lock themselves inside and take over the building. So you end up with employees on the outside that can't enter the building and union members inside that won't come out.

So they don't answer the phone, they don't do service calls, they don't fix equipment that has clearly failed....they simply sit-in the building and make sure no one can enter.

They basically took BC TEL's assets as a hostage back in 1981.



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Postby cragorn » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:47 am

This is as close of a definition I could find


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in



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Postby JohnDoe » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:57 am

Seems to me that would be illegal aside from the question of how would they get in?


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Postby alec » Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:24 am

A sit in (as you describe it) would be a very dangerous thing from the Unions point of view.

Taking over a buildingcould be done. However Telus has taken great pains to have security everywhere so you could count on the takeover being well documented. If the building is filled with equipment and something goes wrong with that equipment which is not addressed immediately the backlash from the public would be swift and have a negative impact on how the TWU is percieved.


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Right now anything to do with service it is TELUS in the foreground and the Union in the background. That means that any issues with service are generally laid at Telus' door.

With a Sit in that changes: Now the Union is directly involved in Customer Service. It may still be Telus' fault but now both groups own the blame.

It's too late to do the Sit In.



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Postby jorver » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:22 pm

isnt that what happened in the 81 job action for bctel didnt employees take over the buildings,they kept things running business as usual but kicked out management. I am sure telus was prepared for that kind of situation this time.




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