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HANDS IN OUR POCKETS, HANDS IN OUR POCKETS.....

Postby wimpole1 » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:56 pm

What a bunch of B.S! Our bargaining committee is going to go through the proposals "Item by Item" Ha Ha Ha. Who is getting the big paychecks for this you may ask. It is our great bargaining committee!! Line your pockets now, guys and gals, with members dues and then kiss off. Do us all a favor!!

Posted 2010-Sep-28
The Bargaining Committee met again this past week with Telus, continuing to review the first pass of the Collective Agreement. All Appendices, Memoranda of Agreements, Letters of Agreement and Settlement Letters have been discussed. This helped each party to get a better understanding of what the other is seeking. The Committee’s next scheduled meeting with Telus is today, September 28th, where they plan to finish up a few remaining items in the master and at which point the first pass will be completed. We will both then move on to discuss each proposal in depth, item by item.

We will continue to update you as bargaining progresses

(Yes please tell us all how much you are pocketing to carry this on and on)!!



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Postby NC » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:16 am

This helped each party to get a better understanding of what the other is seeking.
Anyone on the Bargaining Committee who does not "understand" what the other is seeking... leave the room.


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Postby green1 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:03 pm

so how long have they been "bargaining" for? and we still haven't heard a single word about what the issues are?

If there are no issues, it should have been done months ago. and it there ARE issues the members should have been consulted months ago.

So where are we now? other than obviously wasting lots of money, money that the members were out actually working to get, and money that the union simply takes to do what it wants with with no consultation...



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Postby alec » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:02 pm

I suspect this is all about timing. if there is a quick settlement then it will look like the exec are not trying very hard. They need to take this slow. I suspect at some point they will engineer a moment when they can have some sort of confrontation. There needs to be some tempers flying....


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Postby wimpole1 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:26 am

With all due respect Alec, this is not about tempers flying, this is about how much money the bargaining committee can put in the jeans.
This is a line out of the twu latest bulletin:

"The parties expect to meet again September 29 and have meetings scheduled until the end of the year."

This is about Partying!! They have no intention of getting this done quickly... there isn't any money in that. Even if it were in the best interest of the members (who, by the way, the exec. have totally alienated). But in all fairness the members are totally embarrassed by the pathetic leadership anyway.



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Postby NC » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:48 am

Do you recall, it would have been in 2005 or 2006, when everyone here was upset because Telus did not pull the trigger and finish the TWU off when they had their foot on the TWU's neck?

This round of negotiation is why. Telus has been busily sawing off branches of the tree ostensably to promote healthy future growth. Rather than help the remaining tree by becoming involved with the Member's, the TWU has been squandering money chasing such causes as the LTS guys. Telus can cal lthe ball, the TWU is now powerless.

Someone should tell the TWU that nailing the branches back on won't work.


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Postby wimpole1 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:35 pm

Has anyone heard that John Carpenter holds sway over how president George Doubt comes to conclusions? Just heard on the shop floor and would like it validated. It may be b.s. Someone must know. With no info out there anything is in the realm of possibilities and who knows who holds who in complete confidence. Right?
Who is running this show anyway??



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Postby alec » Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:17 pm

Wimpole, you and I are in violent agreement. it is all about perceptions and money. :D


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Postby wimpole1 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:20 am

So everything is as usual. Even when the twu isn't in negotiations we still are kept in the dark as to what is happening. Who really knew that this was the way a union ran! Well the twu anyway. No news about what is going on across Canada. How are the different departments doing? How are people getting displaced and replaced (or not) handling things? All we are getting on the hot-line has nothing to do with us individually in this time of confusion.
Like it has been said many times "There is NO twu, there is NO union!"
It really is a poor showing for a Trade Union that used to be such a power house. Look at the combined intellect that is running the show now starting from the top down.



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Postby wimpole1 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:49 am

Does anyone remember the "Proud 66" twu executive and convention delegates that marched down the streets of Vancouver to the courthouse in 2006? It would be interesting to see how many admit to being one of the "Proud 66" who used the opportunity to get themselves into positions within the twu exec. How many after that little escapade quit being convention delegates. How many first time delegates found out they were being used and were disgusted with the antics. The current pres. and vice pres. come to mind as being in the lead of the march. Hasn't the pres. gone uncontested ever since? And all the while the twu is swirling down the toilet bowl. We know the union is broke (in more ways than one) but in this case it has to do with our finances. Can the union be dissolved if it is insolvent? Can all the organizations that we owe money to call us to pay up right away? We could not survive that. That's for sure! Can we hold the executive accountable for the unrestrained spending on court costs etc. Can we demand a full accounting of the twu financial statements up to today?
Just wondering.....
It's common knowledge that the kids can't play nicely together...too many big egos...not enough consideration for the members. You'd think a strategist like Lee Riggs could keep everyone pulling together for the common good. Ya Right!



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Postby wimpole1 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:25 pm

Well another week goes by and still not a union rep in sight (at least not one that is coming onto the shop floor. Non of them are proud of the position they have. Non are wearing their "Hi, I'm you Shop Steward. If you need help come to me" hat. What a sorry state of affairs. What is going on at bargaining. The scuttlebutt in the workplace is that it is not going well. Well what do you think will be spoken about without any leadership? It's every man for themselves now! Welcome to the world of the private sector. Non union!!



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Postby NC » Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:49 am

wimp... private sector, non-union is way better than the present TWU showing.


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Postby wimpole1 » Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:46 am

Okay NC...you are right this time!! For the record Wimpole1 is pro-union, just not the present twu leadership. We should give a chance to the defenders of the twu executive. How many grievances have been taken, how many arbitrations are outstanding. Which ones have they won or even which ones have they taken. twu if you don't want to respond to these questions maybe Telus management will! All that is being asked is that the twu executive defend themselves.




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