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How to Decertify a Union

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Postby JohnDoe » Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:17 pm

Man, once this is over I will seek to start one of these. It will be interesting to see how to get it going in both provinces though. I don't know anyone in AB.


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Postby krazytwacy » Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:21 pm

You can do it while the union is on strike. It is just getting people orginized to hire a lawyer and everything that is the problem. So if you know people that would like to do this then please send ADMIN there name and that you requested them. I have some inside info I can't share but this will happen in Alberta anyways. I think this is why IOS got shut down because the site was leaning towards this. If the guy was a Manager who ran the site, this would squash the application. I am doing this for my friend who states the union is insane. We need to know how many people though.



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Postby JohnDoe » Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:32 pm

I know of a few people, but they aren't visiting these sites. They are all staying somewhat removed until they start allowing everyone in BC cross. There is a growing list, but I don't have all the details. Also, since I'm in BC, that link for labourwatch won't work. It only has details for decertifying in AB.


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Have a great day everyone!

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Postby Phoenix66 » Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:41 pm

Man, once this is over I will seek to start one of these. It will be interesting to see how to get it going in both provinces though. I don't know anyone in AB.
no time like the present. The key is to get representation city by city .. dept by department.. floor by floor.. for example, i can get and look after floors 6 and 7 in Calgary .. we need eastern people too.



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Postby Admin1 » Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:07 am

That is what this if for we have to weed them out of the main forum and get them here. We have to move quickly because I have no idea why, IOS got shut down and It only lasted a couple of weeks. I am awaiting Letters from Telus and the Union.The good think is that I am not an employee so they can't fire me. We have to get as many people at we can into the forums, once we can trust them then bring them here. I am watch INK right now.



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Postby JohnDoe » Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:17 am

Yes, theink seems to know what he's talking about.


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Postby Phoenix66 » Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:47 pm

we need to get Mowerpower in here. she has done alot of legwork on this subject .. the sticky point was that even tho those signing the petition are anonymous.. one person has to take the lead and they are not anonymous.. they are the one who makes the formal application .
but she knows the details.. i believe she found the petition has to go straight to the CIRB..



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I let more in.



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Postby mowerpower » Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:25 pm

Hi guys... Nice little room...

Okay the deal is that we cannot deal with each provincial labour board separately... therefore we are Federal juristiction, meaning it all has to come through the CIRB.

The gernal rule is that they don't make any decisions during a labour dispute, but they will always look review it... HOWEVER, once the petition is submitted, we need to provide proof as to why they should override their general rule... Easy enough with a bit of leg work...

RULE #1 - No Management can be a part of this at any time

RULE #2 - Pettition has to state soemthing along the lines of "By signing this petition I am authorizing ________ ________ to act on my behalf in an effort to de-certify the TWU. (or whatever... ) - This person will be the only person whose name will be given out... Everyone else will be annonymous. Petition only requires Date, printed name, and signed name. the person will be required to attend all hearings on this matter and meet with the board.

RULE #3 - We need 50% to sign, then they will allow for a vote...



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Postby mowerpower » Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:27 pm

tracy, if you still have access to my email address from sign in then by all means keep it, even if the site goes down, you have my permission to email me.



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Postby Admin1 » Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:50 pm

Sorry the ink is pro union I ment ash.
Who else. I also added Ihatedos he is my husband so I know hes okay.
Joepublic seems good to.
What do you think.
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Postby Admin1 » Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:55 pm

Okay now my husband can start a petition at the TPS he however is a new employee and even thought Telus says he is a BU I don't think his signature will count because he refused to sign the card. I have a few questions though before he can do this.
Will he lose his job if he does this, we both know not to use company time or resources.
Does anyone know the answer to this.



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Enlighten me...

Postby ihatedos » Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:07 pm

De-certification aside, it's clear to everyone here that the TWU derives their mandate from the union members, correct?
My view is that the TWU in doing what they have, not providing union membership the option of consultation as they do it, and arbitrarily exerting their authority, amounts to blatant abuse of that mandate. This is an egregious injustice to the union members who have placed their faith in the hands of Bruce Bell and the TWU, and it's almost tragic that so many don't seem to realize what's happening.
I think that those that are in this room are here because of the balance and insight I've read in your posts. Feedback on this please...I need as much of your collective perspective as possible before I continue.




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