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Battle of fines - continues

Discussion about the issue of Unions fining their members.
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Battle of fines - continues

Postby NC » Thu May 08, 2008 10:14 am

More union dues heading to the lawyer's pockets...
TORONTO - The power of a union to enforce solidarity in its ranks is set to come under the judicial microscope in a key test of whether the courts can be used to collect fines against members who cross legal picket lines.

The case, which goes before Ontario's highest court this month, involves two unionized tax department employees who agreed to work during a strike by the Public Service Alliance of Canada in 2004.
and close to our hearts:
In a similar case, the provincial court of Alberta ruled in February that the Telecommunications Workers Union was wrong in trying "to give the authority of law" to union discipline by using the justice system to collect fines from three Telus employees who crossed picket lines in 2005.



http://www.cbc.ca/cp/national/080504/n050424A.html


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Postby alec » Thu May 08, 2008 1:17 pm

Unions will never ever give up trying to win this. They need control over their members and there is only so much that you can do where you threaten someone with physical violence.


The problem with physical violence these days is that it is too easy to get caught since the authourities are no longer turning a blind eye to this.

The Unions have to be able to hold management hostage. without strike action they are kneecapped.


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Postby green1 » Thu May 15, 2008 11:04 am

the thing is, they still have the option of going on strike, all this sort of thing does is force them to actually have the support of their members first... what a concept!



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Postby NC » Thu May 15, 2008 11:37 am

Funny thing is... in many cases, no they do not have the right to strike because that is what their Union negotiated.

Do you remember when everyone jumped down CAW's throat for suggesting a "No strike during term of the collective agreement"? Many, CA"s contain just such a provision.

So, the Union walks one talk, then talks a different walk.

Often there is payment to the Union for accepting such an agreement. the UFCW in Canada is famous for selling their Members/members down the river for huge cash infusions to their "Special Education Funds", millions.


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Postby green1 » Thu May 15, 2008 12:03 pm

no strike DURING the term of the agreement is normal, most strikes happen AFTER the agreement expires. I believe the CAW negotiated something that affected the latter, the former was most likely already there.



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Postby alec » Sun May 18, 2008 10:27 pm

And (to continue your point) the general population rarely ever looks upon a strike as being a right and just expression by the union. It is seen as being a tool to take advantage of the company to get wage increases that they general population never sees in their own paychecks. The attitude is that the increases given to employees wind up being passed on to the consumer so we all pay for their greed in the long run.


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Postby NC » Wed May 28, 2008 9:41 am

I just got my usual NCC email.

http://nationalcitizens.ca/doc_bin/Forc ... ues_01.mp3

New ad campaign about fining workers.


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