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"tenatative Agreement - Fact Finding"

Postby Admin1 » Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:41 pm

This area should not contain Hypothesis, just what we have gleaned to be TRUTH. I am listening to Bruce Bell on the Radio now� prerecorded.



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Postby NC » Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:43 pm

Bruce said:
"No one will lose their job unless they want to?
I surmise there are plenty of "packages" for those that want out...



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Postby Miles » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:56 pm

I surmise there are plenty of "packages" for those that want out...
you broke your own rule in the first post :bom:



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Postby !(a.scab) » Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:24 am

Miles, NC and Admin1 are not the same person...

I think it's reasonable to assume that the language TELUS used in the final offer remains largely intact with respect to people losing their jobs due to contracting out... if you're displaced, you'll be offered your choice of re-training for a new position, a competative package, or a job with the contractor. Your choice... nobody loses their job unless they want to. Okay, so this isn't a known FACT, but that's what the old offer said, so I can't imagine the new one being any worse.



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Postby alec » Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:47 am

I am inclined to agree. Telus would not be in a big hurry to get a settlement that seriously weakens their position to compete.



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Postby NC » Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:48 am

Thank you all, yes Miles I am different than Admin, not sure where that came from but anyway, there you go, for the record.

Also, when Bruce Bell made the comment that "no one will lose their jobs unless they want to, would strongly suggest that there will be parachutes available for any that might choose that course.



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Postby goatdancer » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:06 pm

NC
Now would those be good union-made parachutes?



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Postby green1 » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:11 pm

Now would those be good union-made parachutes?
is that of the variety of "you don't need to see the parachute, just trust us"?
or the 100% solid one, with 55% of the parts missing?
the ones made by people who would have been fired years ago except for the union that keeps the incompetant employed?
or a repackaged company one now with a "union endorsed" stamp on it even though it wasn't nearly good enough 3 months ago, nor 1.5 years before that?



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Postby goatdancer » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:14 pm

Neither of the above.........



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Postby Miles » Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:44 pm

Miles, NC and Admin1 are not the same person...
admin had quoted NC's rules :?



is that of the variety of "you don't need to see the parachute, just trust us"?
or the 100% solid one, with 55% of the parts missing?
the ones made by people who would have been fired years ago except for the union that keeps the incompetant employed?
or a repackaged company one now with a "union endorsed" stamp on it even though it wasn't nearly good enough 3 months ago, nor 1.5 years before that?

Touche

You have been saving that haven't you 8)



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Postby NC » Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:54 pm

Miles, I really want to hear what you have to say... you seem to be in flux... your opinons are not coming out like they used to. I honestly counted on hearing what you had to say... what is going to happen.

I know you face challenges more than many, how do you see this ending? I won't hold you to anything, or say, *are you nuts* os anything like that, but I want to know what you think.



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Postby Miles » Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:29 pm

Miles, I really want to hear what you have to say... you seem to be in flux... your opinons are not coming out like they used to. I honestly counted on hearing what you had to say... what is going to happen.

I know you face challenges more than many, how do you see this ending? I won't hold you to anything, or say, *are you nuts* os anything like that, but I want to know what you think.
I don't know what to think



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Postby jorver » Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:15 pm

am i misunderstanding or is this about what we have heard or learned, rather than opinions.

I spoke to a union exec. today.. they have heard nothing official as of 2pm. The offer is still at the business agent stage.
I also heard Telus jumped the gun with the news release..but no biggie.



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Postby !(a.scab) » Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:53 am

First I heard of it was Bruce Bell's mug on TV saying they've reached a deal and are recomending it to their members ... how's that TELUS jumping the gun?



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Postby Olive » Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:19 am

First I heard of it was Bruce Bell's mug on TV saying they've reached a deal and are recomending it to their members ... how's that TELUS jumping the gun?
the picketers are always right.. dont you know that? :roll:




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