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Australia's Work Choices

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Australia's Work Choices

Postby Cat Lady » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:31 am

CEO gets $22 million bonus while award workers get real pay cut under Work Choices
Thursday, 8 November 2007

The fact that Telstra CEO Sol Trujillo will get a $22 million pay packet this year while one million working families will get a real pay cut of up to $800 shows the unfairness of the Howard Government’s Work Choices IR laws said the ACTU.

Read the article here:

http://www.actu.asn.au/Campaigns/YourRi ... oices.aspx

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Postby green1 » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:38 am

Ok... reading the article, everyone gets a RAISE... unions love to throw around this fictitious "real pay" figure, but there is no such thing.

Also note the "pay cut" they refer to is in the minimum wage not going up as much as the union thinks it should have, they don't even reference what people actually get paid (I don't think there's a single person in the city of Calgary making minimum wage these days!)

It is also interesting to note that if they're like us in Canada, they can save over $1000 in union dues under the new program for a net RAISE of over $200 of "real pay"



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Postby NC » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:42 am

And then, with a slightly broader view.. like that of all Australia instead of one company:
Wages and prices

The rate of inflation has fallen sharply with each administration from an annual average of 14.5 per cent under Whitlam to 2.5 per cent under Howard. Real wages, measured in terms of non-farm compensation per employee, rose by an average of 4.7 per cent per annum under Whitlam, but then slowed under Fraser and even fell slightly under Hawke/Keating. Real wages have grown an average of 1.7 per cent per annum under Howard.
Granted it is only a parliamentary research paper, and not the same good solid reporting efforts of a council of unions, but it is all I could find on short notice:

http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/RP/2 ... 08rp04.htm


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Postby NC » Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:58 pm

Well, the Labour party in Aus has taken an interesting step that I bet the unions did nto see coming.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st ... 49,00.html


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Postby green1 » Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:30 pm

Trade unions will survive and flourish or wither and die based entirely upon their ability to service the needs of their members. That is a matter for them. It is not a matter for the elected government of the day.
best quote I've read in a long time... I doubt however that the unions are happy with it... why serve the needs of your members when it's so much easier to lobby a politician?



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Postby Cat Lady » Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:51 pm

Two more sleeps.



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Postby NC » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:52 pm

That's confusing... the piece is dated Nov 23... tomorrow, and they are voting on the 24th, which *is* technically two sleeps away. However, they will be waking up on the 24th and voting... in about 12 hours. :shock:

It looks like the Work Choices thing may not be heading out any time soon.


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Postby Cat Lady » Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:25 am

Labor Party wins Australia election.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... ome-center



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Postby NC » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:06 am

Kevin Rudd swept to power in a landslide victory to defeat John Howard, the second-longest-serving prime minister in Australian history. Rudd won despite his relative inexperience and a booming economy. His win, analysts say, is due in no small part to the fact that the country was ready for a fresh new start after more than a decade of Howard's conservative rule.
Combined with his statement about Australian Unions... I wonder will watch closely what happens to the Work Choices program.

He must have had some great poll news prior to the election that gave him the confidence to stand up and say that the Unions are on their own. I suspect the WC program will stay.


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Postby Cat Lady » Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:28 pm

The indication was that Howard's gov't loss was mostly based on the WCP. I don't think Rudd would be keeping that alive going forward.

When I read that Rudd stated that unions would rise or fall on their own that indicated to me that there would not be any legislation to skew it one way for either labour or corporation. Another nail in the coffin of the WCP.



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Postby green1 » Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:32 pm

When I read that Rudd stated that unions would rise or fall on their own that indicated to me that there would not be any legislation to skew it one way for either labour or corporation. Another nail in the coffin of the WCP.
Except that's EXACTLY what WC does, it removes the legislation that scews things in the favour of unions, making it legal, for the first time in a long time, for employees to choose whether or not they want to pay union dues and be in a union.

so you contradict yourself, on one hand you say there will be no legislation to scew things either way, and on the other hand say that he will scew things in favour of unions...



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Postby Cat Lady » Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:14 pm

The people (voters) of Australia have spoken.



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Postby NC » Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:54 am

Your understanding of the WCP is correct. I have done considerable work researching the WCP and it is a successful concept and one that many other countries are planning to emulate.

I still think, despite Cat's opinion that the Labour Party will leave it in place, particularly after his statement on the 24th. The WCP does truly make union stand on their own worth for the employees. Canada's force dues regime, and the Union's skewed and selective interpretation of Rand's decision is now coming to light.

I hope this speaks to a bright future for Canada's prosperity and the freedom of its people to chose not to belong to Unions if they chose not to.


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Postby green1 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:07 am

I think what we're seeing here in Cat's post (and I don't mean to pick on you Cat, just show the current "union mentality")
is that unions have become so used to the legislated solution, that they don't know how to stand on their own, they actually truly believe that the WC legislation scews things in favour of the employer, and that the situation we have in Canada with forced dues and the possibility of forced union membership in some jobs IS the "level playing field" they don't see that WC is what levels the playing field



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Postby Cat Lady » Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:05 pm

Under Howard, Australia had three terms of prosperity. That would be two terms with labour laws before WCP and one term, the last, where WCP was put in place. Howard’s last mandate was a very strong one. One where he had the power to put in place legislation unopposed. Howard had a dictatorship in the making.

Like most right wing politicos he strongly disliked unions and sought way to undermine them. The is were the WCP came from. Not to help workers as he exposed, but a way to take power away from the unions. The problem was that the WCP invoked fear in workforce unionized r not.

So now you have a prosperous country with a workforce that has, in their minds, lost the job security they once felt they had. This fear was parlayed into the Labour campaign to remove the Howard gov’t and the WCP. It is now history. The people have let Howard know he went too far. Democracy in action.

I would have to applaud the Rudd gov’t for their statement that unions should stand on their own. With this statement I would expect them to level the playing field. Create a balanced approach to both labour and corporate needs. Hopefully to foster an era of mutual benefit – union (workforce) and company working together.




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