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Do you support the coalition?

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Do you support the coalition government

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Do you support the coalition?

Postby NC » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:54 am

Let's spin the top off of this one.


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Postby green1 » Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:23 pm

I think the election was quite representative of what the country wanted, they wanted the Conservatives in power, but they wanted a minority so that they would be kept in check by the opposition.

I don't think that anybody in the country wanted Dion as Prime Minister, let alone in what amounts to a majority government position.

Not to mention what most people think of the Bloc's role in this whole thing.

This whole setup is designed to steamroll the Conservatives, they will be spending money with no regards for the consequences and little to no concern for wether it actually produces any results. Right off the top they have promissed to throw away 30 BILLION dollars on a misguided stimulus package, they will throw money at failing business models which won't help anyone, but ensure that those businesses don't have any reason to smarten up and change with the times. Then in a few years when we badly need to inject money in to projects to help the economy, where will it come from?

The Liberals and the NDP both campaigned in the last election on promisses that would destroy jobs, and increase living costs and taxes. Is this what we want going in to a recession?

I also find it quite interesting that this happened immediately after the Conservatives threatened to cancel public funding for political parties... apparently they're just like our union, the only thing that makes them move is the threat of a cut to their income (historical point, the TWU did not respond at all to TELUS' incremental lockout measures until TELUS got to the point of suspending collection of union dues, the TWU then immediately commenced a work to rule campaign.)

My personal guess as to the way things will go however is the following: I expect that the Governor General will agree to prorogue parliament until January, however at that point the Conservatives will immediately loose a confidence motion (because the opposition doesn't care what happens between now and then, they are more interested in the power than in results) and likely at that point the Governor General will hand power over to the opposition. Due to the very recent election I don't believe she is likely to call another one, though I do wish that she would.



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Postby JoePublic » Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:41 am

sadly the twu supports this movement....received this email:

This is the TWU Hotline for December 3, 2008

Support a Coalition Government

Canada is facing the greatest economic crisis in decades. Canadians are
worried about their jobs, their savings and their future. Under these
circumstances, our political leaders should be working together for the good
of the country.

If you agree, we ask you to deliver this message by participating in one of
the
following rallies:

* Ottawa, Thursday, Dec. 4th at 12 p.m. on Parliament Hill

* Edmonton, Thursday, Dec. 4th at 6 p.m., Winston Churchill Square, Downtown
Edmonton central

* Vancouver, Thursday, Dec. 4th at 5 p.m., Vancouver Trade & Convention Centre
Ballroom "A"

* Toronto, Saturday, Dec. 6th at 12 p.m., City Hall (Nathan Phillips Square)

* Montreal, Saturday, Dec 6th at 1:00 p.m., Complexe Guy-Favreau

Thank you for calling the TWU Hotline.
*******************************



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Postby green1 » Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:52 am

I note that they know better than to even bother trying a rally in Calgary...



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Postby JoePublic » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:23 am

I note that they know better than to even bother trying a rally in Calgary...
there is a rally....the twu chose to omit it :lol:



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Postby green1 » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:49 am

I also note that the unions are organizing the pro-coalition rallies... but the anti-coalition rallies are being organized by private citizens....

So again, as usual, our unions are working against us, and probably wasting our dues to do so.



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Postby grudey » Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:53 am

Sickening, what else needs to be said.



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Postby NC » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:58 am

*If* we have an election and *if* Canadians vote for a Conservative Majority that will be proof positive that Unions have been spending member dues to do things "politically" that members do not support. just like the Stelmach union issue in Alberta.


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Postby Admin1 » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:23 pm

I thought my vote counted for something in this country, very pissed off that they decided to do this. I would gladly pay more taxes for the chance to vote on this. Hijacking the government!!!! should not be allowed.

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Postby NC » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:51 pm

We always miss you... welcome back, for however short a period.


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Postby alec » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:19 pm

It has been a very interesting week. I think that we will see big problems with the coalition by the end of January. There is no way that Dion can lead it. they will have to deal with teh leadership issue in order to keep the coalition alive.

Another thing is around historical precedence. The GG in the vast majority of cases will always take the advise of the prime minister. If the government is defeated then Harper will certainly ask for another election and there is a good chance that he will get what he asks for.

The GG is in a tricky position: Appointed by the Liberals and with questions about her maybe being a Quebec soverentist (her husband certainly is). She will likely take the safe path.

my 2 cents. :?


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Postby green1 » Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:57 pm

Calgary Pro-Coalition rally attendance: 75
Calgary Anti-Coalition rally attendance: approximately 2,000



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Postby NC » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:06 pm

Rallies on separate days I trust?


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Postby JoePublic » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:10 pm

yup the pro- on thurs
the anti on saturday --- I thought I saw that it was close to 3000 on saturday



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Postby NC » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:14 pm

Any news items on that? I would like to see it.


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