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Larry Hubick's blog

Postby NC » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:12 pm

I found a Blog by a guy called Larry Hubich - President of the Saskatchewan Federation of Labour.

Needless to say Larry and I have differing view points on such topics as Democracy, Human Rights, and Secret Ballot Voting.

As he does not support secret ballot votes, favouring card certification instead, I asked him if he would support card Decertification too? That is, if more than half a work force sign cards saying they want rid of the union, should we be able to then boot the unions... I am waiting to see if he answers?

Some seem to suggest he just deletes posts he does not like so I snapped a shot of it, let's see how he anwers.

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Postby Cat Lady » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:58 pm

In this same area do you (NC) accept the fact that a company can voluntarily recognize a union with out allowing the emloyees to vote?



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Postby NC » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:38 pm

No, of course not.. .

If you want a Union, you vote, secretly.

If you don't want a union, you vote, secretly.

Why should it be legal to get a union without a vote if it's not legal to get rid of a union without a vote? There should never be neutrality agreements unless the employees vote for that Union.

That is something about the Magna deal, employee have a secret ballot vote.


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Postby NC » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:53 pm

Mr. Hubbick greeted me kindly, but then thought I was from LabourWatch.

Seems like a nice fella, to bad he's the President of the Saskatchewan Federation of Labour. He will have some interesting viewpoints on the importance of being able to fine union members though.

Hopefully I will find the time to drill into that topic with him.

Here's the thread over there.. those "Blogs" are a Biyatch" to navigate.
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Postby NC » Mon May 19, 2008 12:30 pm

Well Mr Hubich is crying in his unionized coffee this morning as Bill 6 passed.

He was upset because it gives employees the right to a secret ballot vote, which Mr. Hubich claims is undemocratic, and it moves the level of support for certification vote UP from 25% to 45% and move the level of support required to get a vote for decertification DOWN from 50% to 45%.

To save you the math, in Saskatchewan it used to be that if you wanted a union you had to have 25% support to get a vote and if you wanted rid of a union you had to get twice that, or 50% to get a vote. As an aside, if you git more than 50% for a certification your union was in, no vote. There was not such provision for getting your union out, even if 100% of people signed decert cards.

Mr. Hubich says that was fair.

Also, they have removed card based certification, so there will always be a vote. Larry says that is undemocratic because union drives (Card Signing drives) are democratic but having a secret ballot vote opens the door to employer coercion and intimidation.

So, the President of the Saskatchewan Federation of Labour thinks employers coerce and intimidate and Union card cert drives (Union door knocking campaigns) are democratic.

Sort of gives a great Union style perspective eh?
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Postby alec » Mon May 19, 2008 7:49 pm

it does indeed


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Postby JJ » Wed May 21, 2008 10:34 am

I actually met this guy once, he's a bright fellow. I do not like his politics because he is so skewed, and he is indeed really mad about this. I saw your post (NC) on his blog, and his terse reply. I notice he did not answer your question, which should come as no surprise.




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